The Coca-Cola Company (KO) Management Presents at 2022 Barclays Global Consumer Staples Conference Call Transcript

The Coca-Cola Company (NYSE:KO) 2022 Barclays Global Consumer Staples Conference Call September 8, 2022 10:30 AM ET

Company Participants

James Quincey – Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Conference Call Participants

Lauren Lieberman – Barclays

Lauren Lieberman

Okay. Great. So, we’re going to get started. Thanks for joining us here. We have James Quincey, CEO of the Coca-Cola Company. So, happy to be back in-person. Lots to talk about. I’m going to skip the pleasantries.

James Quincey

Okay.

Question-and-Answer Session

Q – Lauren Lieberman

Yeah. Just a warning. So, it’s been two years since you announced plans to reorganize this network model, which is something that I’ve been really intrigued with since that time, and given how long the pandemic has dragged on. Now, maybe it seems like it was an interesting time to initiate so much change. Global category teams is to refresh people’s memory collapse, new organization into the fewer geographic clusters, migrating back office, and non-consumer facing functions into a centralized resource. So, just simply, two years and it’s a fair time to say what’s working well, what sort of needed tweaks along the way? And maybe what’s so ahead in terms of benefits to be accrued from these changes.

James Quincey

Sure. I mean, let’s start with the benefits. The reduction in the number of operating units, the platform services that came after the lean center, and the focus on the marketing program, the reduction, the portfolio, they’re all targeted at making us more capable and more able to keep achieving what we set out to say we wanted to do which is to get the revenue growth rate at the top end of long-term algorithm. I’m leaving aside all the inflationary weirdness in the short-term and potentially next year, but all of those things are about reinforcing the capability of the company and the Coca-Cola system could be able to perform at the top end of the revenue, because once you become a largely concentrate company, the long-term growth of properties are going to be largely driven by the top line. Because there’s not that much leverage below the line. So, all those things aim to that.

And I think what we’re seeing is that it continues to reinforce that capability. There’s no silver bullets out there. That’s going to suddenly change the Coke Company. It’s too large for that. But these things are reinforcing that capability and reinforcing our confidence that we will be able to perform that sort of level.

And I think as a data point, just kind of looking at COVID end-to-end, given that it’s now been so long, if you take the first half of 2022 and compare it to the first half of 2019 and just say, what was the average annual growth rate in round numbers in volume and price/mix, you get about two and a bit on volume and you get about three and a bit on price/mix. In other words, you get between five and six on the top line. And so you really can see that end-to-end, even through all the rollercoaster of COVID, we kept up that level of top line that we were getting coming out of 2017, 2018 and 2019.

In terms of the development of the program, we took a very conscious decision, despite seeming slightly quick off in the middle of COVID to want to reorganize basically all virtually over teams on Zoom, and to shrink the portfolio. But the intention was very much about leaning in to being more aggressive on getting done, what needed to get done, and also taking the decision that once COVID ended and the reopening was happening, and we were — everyone was back to growth, the last thing you wanted to be involved in was a stress set of restructurings, which tend to distract the organization from growing. So, in the middle of COVID, it was — there was an opportunity to get on the kind of the restructuring and kind of the things that tend to distract people from growth in the midst of when there was less growth available. And we were more focused on keeping the supply chain going. And so, we really got all that up and running.

It’s still a work progress. As we’ve told before, I’m not a believer in perfect worlds and there’s no perfect organization, so there’ll always be things to improve. I think the nine operating units are working well. I think they’ve got — done a great job in standing up platform services. We know we’ve got bids that we need to continue to improve, and we’ll work on that in the coming months. And the marketing effectiveness is really scaring to work. And when you look at the programs or some of the innovations on core brands like Coke and Fanta and Sprite, they’ve been more effective. And whether you look at simple measures like consumer engagement with some of the Coke innovations, if you take the consumer engagement with Coke Marshmello, or Coke Starlight versus Coke Vanilla, you get a tremendous uptick in consumer engagement with the more recent ones. And it’s been very well thought through. All the way through to the effectiveness of the program seen in more tangible terms, how much gross profit did I get per dollar I spent on DME and an improvement in those sorts of metrics for innovation.

So, it’s starting to work. It’s a huge system and a huge organization. So, it was always going to take years to see the full benefits from through, but I don’t think we should consider them as benefits on top of some ongoing number. They’re all about continuing to keep us at that kind of optimal level of performance.

Lauren Lieberman

Okay. To your sense that the sort of information flow and dialogue has changed in terms of these — the global category teams, that the idea of there’s a team of people that are tasked with sport hydration or tea, that’s happening the way that you envisioned?

James Quincey

I mean, it’s beginning to happen. I think, it’s providing at a very important level there. I mean, every — you can’t have your cake needed. We have continued to make the decision that the primary kind of operating organization geographic. We reduce the number of operating units to be really focused around in a sense like consumer groups and like retail universes, and therefore one has to, okay, that’s the primary operating use? What am I leaving behind in that? And the bit that always got left behind the Coke Company was a kind of a global perspective on a brand or a category, particularly some of the newer and more developing ones.

And so, you have to come in and cut across with something that looks and takes that perspective, not in a fully matrix way where everyone can say no to everything else, but an overlay perspective with some clear delineation. So, who’s looking at what, for what reasons? And that’s where the categories can come in, whether it’s — as I talked about on call centers [ph], bringing some scale and some amp off to some of the programs that they’re doing rather than doing the same thing 10 times, you can do it one time and — but better, all the way through to some of the other categories, and taking a global look at not just, take juices, for example. So, we have juice relationships with the people we get juice and fruit from.

Some of those relationships are global and some of the local. But there wasn’t someone sitting in the center going well, how does the evolution and the availability and the cost of different types of fruits by different times, there is impact the innovation agenda, and the branding agenda of the global juice portfolio and bringing that together brings a degree of optimization to where are you going on formula innovation, where you going on the development of the category that just adds to what the local operating units are doing.

Lauren Lieberman

Okay. Great. One other organization oriented question, John Murphy’s going to be assuming the role of President on October 1st, along with his role as CFO, after Brian Smith retires as COO. You’ve mentioned that you’re evaluated press release anyway — you mentioned you’re evaluating future plans for the COO role. So, I was just curious on anything you can share update wise, or speaking maybe more generally to your thoughts on the most effective executive leadership structure that you see overseeing the global operating units.

James Quincey

Yeah. I mean, no new announcements to share, surprise, surprise. The global oversight of the Coke Company and ecosystem is always going to end up being a team sport, and it needs multiple people in different configurations to get that done. Certainly, the way we’ve had it for the last few years with Brian, the COO’s been fantastic. He’s helped me a tremendous amount, a very long career, and he has a very deserved retirement ahead of him for both that — you don’t know, he’s a very — he looks very youthful for his age, but he is done a great job. And that certainly helped us get to where we’ve got to.

But there’s no one side fits all organizational structure for Coke, because it’s not just about how do we need to manage it. It’s about who’s available where, at what stage of talent development. And so, we always have to balance how do we have to organize the constellations to both run the business and to continue to give upcoming executives challenges, and experiences. And so, over our history, we have used the COO role at times, and they’re not at times and have lots of different configurations, but the objective is always for balance for me to lead the company and the system with the need to kind of bring generations of executives up through the senior levels.

Lauren Lieberman

Okay. I want to talk a bit — going back to the category of teams. I apologize. But beverages for life has been this hallmark of your tenure at COO, but I think the last two years, the acceleration that we’ve seen in top line growth, a lot of it comes back to the success of brand Coke, increasingly Fanta and Sprite been very much brand Coke. So, we know in the industry overall, the mathematical importance of the healthy core. But as you think about resource allocation and opportunities for the other categories that you’ve been exploring, how do you manage that, right? How do you manage and think about the development of these categories, and also now including hot coffee and alcohol as well, if you want to touch on that?

James Quincey

Yeah. A couple of thoughts. I mean, firstly, to the question, we set out beverages for life and then it’s like, well, perhaps sparking groom more than people were expecting, when we did beverages for life. And there were a number of conversations in the early years about, should we set an objective of sparking, should be this much on this category should be that much. And set some kind of objectives in terms of the total portfolio mix. And then very clearly we decided not to, because that would’ve been in essence countered to the very idea of beverages for life, which was very much pointed at declaring the consumer centricity of the business and saying the consumer has to be in the center. Our objective is to provide the consumer with the drinks they want, the brands they want, of course, with the appropriate level of profitability, but really with the consumer at the same time.

And in doing so, we need to do justice to each brand and each category. And then the consumer end up deciding. I mean, they decided to drink slightly more sparking or Coke Zero than we expected relative to a juice drink. That’s the consumer’s decision. We are not going to force them to buy what we want to make. We need to make what they want to buy. And so, that was very intentional. And then, obviously, we work on each brand to give it its just desserts. And so, then the result is what the consumer is driving towards. And as you say, what we’ve seen is kind of reinvigorated sparkling category, lot of growth with elements like Coke Zero, but also rejuvenation of entrance, right? But we made steady progress in the other categories.

And when it comes to resource allocation, clearly, we have to make those judgment calls in the strategy processes and in the annual budgeting process. There’s no magic black box. Because you ultimately face the choices of what is going to give you the best result in the short-term. And what do you need to achieve in the long run. In the short run, backing the thing — the current winners that like investing — momentum investing works when there’s momentum. In the long run, that could end up being a different.

In a way the same is true, a bit with brands. And so, very much we’re focus on trying to strike that balance each year of where to allocate DME, people, capital, both us and the bottlers, to both get the numbers in short and drive the momentum of the business, but also develop a long-term portfolio and make sure that we are where we have brands that don’t have the same level of market share in a given country as Coke, that it is making steady progress to increase its market share, increase its leadership ratio versus others and take into account economics. We’re not going to invest as much money or any money necessarily in 24 pack case water in the U.S. versus ready-to-drink tea in China.

Lauren Lieberman

Yeah. Okay. Alcohol. So, never say never when James Quincey is CEO, I think is sort of the — what people walked away from the last couple years with some experiments that we’ve been hearing about. So, I guess, how would you describe — I mean, is this a cute experiment? Is it bigger than that? How would you articulate the aspirations of the vision for what role alcohol could play in the portfolio?

James Quincey

It hasn’t got to the stage of vision. I mean, if I break out — backing up and I break our portfolio down into four kind of buckets or podiums, if you like. You got Coke on the gold medal podium is over 50% share of the core categories. It’s a huge share of the beverage industry. Clear gold medal is far exceeds any other. Then you got the silver metal, if you like, where we are number two or number one, but we’re not at distant number one as we might be with Coke and there’s some work in progress on share or margin or whatever, but this kind of silver metal. You got Fanta. So, you’ve got Sprite. You’ve got tea, green [ph] tea in Japan. You’ve got all sorts of categories in countries there.

And then you got kind of the third position where we’ve got an idea of what we want to do. We have a clear vision about how it could create scale and materiality for the Coke Company, but what needs to happen is to execute on the thesis to make sure that it’s worth a long-term play. And so, you have become a third bucket.

And then you got the fourth bucket, which is — we haven’t even got to the third bucket yet. So that’s the true experimentation bucket. And for me, alcohol is in this bucket. You could — of course, you can do a mathematical calculation of, okay, if I could get a certain share of flavored alcoholic beverages and flavored alcoholic beverages or a certain percentage of the beer industry, you can do yourself a calculation says, okay, actually like it could become a material. It could become material for Coke Company. Now, when I say material, if you’re aiming to grow revenue at five to six, Coke is going to be a piece of that. And the rest of the portfolio — each piece of the portfolio is only going to be decimals. Nothing is going to move the needle. That makes sense. And so you can say, yeah, it could become a piece, one of the pieces of the decimals that add up to the kind of the five to six revenue growth.

What do we need to see before we bet enough money to get to that point? We need to see whether we can get traction with the sorts of things we’ve got in market or other innovations we’ve got are hard delta here in the U.S. It looks like it’s doing well. The partner is very encouraged. We’ve got fruit flavor — largely fruit flavored alcoholic drinks just launched in the U.S., did well in Japan and the Philippines. And we’ve got the premix cocktail, which Jack & Coke is the most emblematic. But we’ve got some of those in Brazil.

If those three things together and any other new thing can like demonstrate traction momentum and that there’s enough competitive advantage and pull that maybe merits moving up the podium to the vision that we will see in time.

Lauren Lieberman

Okay. Great. Want to talk a little bit about the global marketing model. So, marketing dollars are still below 2019 as a percentage of sales. So, brand momentum very, very strong. So, it seems like there are signs of progress on the — not reinventing the wheel at every go across the global footprint and the regional teams. But I guess, what have you been most impressed by at this point? And what does the build in that DME spend look like from here?

James Quincey

Yeah. I mean, firstly, we came into this year saying we’re going to lean into investing and we continue to take up the spend, and we continue not withstanding the headlines in certain parts of the world. We continue to have a bias to investing for growth. And even if there were to be slow down, a macro pressure of some short period of time, we’re going to take a long-term portfolio and brand building perspective, and continue investing.

So, we’ve kind of been rebuilding pressure, rebuilding spend. We’ve been judicious on it, because we want to capture the efficiencies from the marketing model. We feel — we absolutely have captured the benefits of consolidating. The thousands of fragmented agencies run up through multiple operating units to the nine operating units with a largely — our partnership with WPP on the marketing system and with some extra creativity. And that is delivering the savings we were looking for.

We have invested some of them. We have used some of the ones other ways. And effectiveness as we talked about in the earlier question is starting to notch up. Because instead of doing the same thing multiple times, there’s more invested in doing it once better or separate a couple of times better and that’s starting to starting to look good.

Lauren Lieberman

That’s great. With that investment, the brands are strong and they’re healthy, and you’ve talked a lot about earning the right to take price. And the same time, the importance of price back architecture and maintaining affordability. I guess, how much does it seem like your ability to price to this up to this point? And particularly in the U.S., it’s been really dramatic, is driven by the business being particularly well prepared, or seeing the macro environment maybe earlier than some others, because I think you’ve really been pretty dramatically a price leader in dealing with inflation.

So, I guess, how are you thinking about planning for late 2022 into 2023? Is there room to keep moving pricing up? Is it — given what you’re seeing now, not just the headlines, but what you’re actually seeing on the consumer environment, is there space to keep moving up on price? Current day of affairs?

James Quincey

Yeah. I think, perhaps the answer starts from kind of an inverted position and certainly the good news is our business system — many of the leaders of Coke, many of the models have experience with markets have been profoundly inflationary for long periods of time, Latin America, Turkey at the moment, other parts of the world. So, there is a deep experience with inflationary situations that perhaps were less common in the U.S. and Europe.

And one of the key pieces of that is not to approach the question from, is there an opportunity to take more price? But the reverse, which is how much price do I need to take in order to keep my margin structure, my business structure moving forward. Because as I said, if I, to put it in your role, like taking price and facing the elasticity — even though elasticities are not higher than, but taking price and facing elasticity, while the consumer still has money may be painful, but it’s not nearly as painful as trying to take price when the consumer doesn’t have money that tends to be very elastic.

And so, our approach as a system is keeping up to pay. It’s about keeping up to pace with the changing inputs to our business. Whether we see opportunities to reset our relative pricing is much more of a longer term effect, not particularly linked to the cost structure. And that’s about, as you commented, earning our right to pricing through our marketing actions, through our innovation, through the RGM and the packaging innovation, through the execution in the marketplace by the model that may provide opportunities to reset or evolve the premiumness relative to the competition over time. That’s a long-term play. The goals on all the time, but the immediate necessity is to keep up with input costs and not get behind the curve.

Lauren Lieberman

Okay. And in the discussion of revenue growth management, also goes package mix. And with that, I think, it’s a good place to talk about broader ESG ambitions and the role of packaging can play. So, could you just remind us of some of your targets and kind of key building blocks to get there?

James Quincey

From an ESG program view?

Lauren Lieberman

Yeah.

James Quincey

Yeah. So, we’ve set a target for 2030 — the first target for 2030, which is to basically recover a bottle account for everyone we sell, obviously make sure they’re recyclable, and then to use at least 50% of that material ourselves in our own packaging, whether that’s our PET or aluminum accounts. We also set an intermediate objective of in refillablility, 25% either refillable or reused or founding with reusable packaging. All of that in the support of a business objective, which is ultimately about making sure our packaging of our products does not generate waste into the environment, whether that be land or sea, but also actually reduces our carbon footprint, because when you can actually generate a circular economy around the packaging, not only is it less waste, it’s actually a lower carbon footprint. And so, I think that feeds into helping our business set itself up to be sustainable for the very long-term.

And of course, government action is also taking place. More clearly, for example, in places like Europe, where there’re very clear European union targets on percentage of collection that governments need to achieve, not just on app beverage packaging, but all sorts of packaging materials and also percentages on reuse of PET and new PET bottles, et cetera, et cetera. So, I mean, there’s a lot of activity coming together says, it’s good to do it and it’s all right. Because it will be lower carbon and lower waste. But that’ll also be a fit with the regulation. So, it’ll become a necessity over time as well.

Lauren Lieberman

Okay. And I think it’ll be helpful to maybe talk a little bit about returnable economics. I think, I feel like returnables is coming up a bit more in the conversation. So — and I guess maybe the economics, the role of this package can play of in terms of affordability, and has in many of your markets historically.

James Quincey

So, the interesting thing about a returnable package or refillable packaging where you actually the bottle back and wash it and refill it with product, rather than recycling, where you get the bottle, you basically chop it up, melt it and remake a new bottle. The principle difference between a refillable bottle and a recycled bottle is the refillable bottle has more — tends to have more labor cost in it, because you’ve got to physically manually manipulate a lot more bottles, which when you step back, what does that create a business system point of view. It tends to push you in using it in the emerging markets.

And the second point to bear in mind, when you think about a refillable versus a new packaging, the refillable packaging, the second time you sell it, you didn’t have to buy the packaging. So, it has terribly lower cost structure and a one way piece of packaging. So, when you come to your RGM strategy, particularly in emerging market, particularly when you’re talking about the kind of bottom third of the socioeconomic pyramid and purchasing power pressures, using a refillable bottle, let’s say, one half lit the refillable bottle in Latin America, you can generate a lower price point because you’re not — you only have to pay for the packaging once if you use 12 times. And so that allows you to bring the price point down, keep the entry price point to the category low, which keeps the consumers in. And so, it’s a very powerful mechanic within RGM. The consumer has the aggravation of physically having to return it and all the manipulation of that, but it’s very effective on the affordability point of view.

In the developed economies, the cost of labor is higher. So, the cost advantage of packages tend to get eroded relative to one way because of the higher cost of the labor, which is why you don’t tend to see them as much. But then the role that can be played in RGM is actually a premium package. So, if you go to Spain and you go to the away from home channels, the cafes you’ll find a huge of returnable glass bottles. And that’s very effective, because you’re able to charge a price point that accommodates the extra labor for that. And it’s a great consumer experience, using the glass bottle. Of course it has. You’re going to give me another microphone, because I keep getting in out. And it’s a great answer to the packaging circular economy because there’s no waste from the returnable glass bottle, because it goes back to the factory. And it has a lower carbon footprint than a one waste glass bottle. So, it can — these refillable bottle can be used in interesting ways any economy.

Lauren Lieberman

Okay. Great. I’m going to shift, sorry, to near term stuff. So, you raised your content currency top line guidance in July 12% to 13%. But reiterated the 5% to 6% all in EPS growth, with FX expected to be 9% drag to profit growth. How do you think about the various macro variables that you have to contend with as a global business? You have currency supply chain, you have political commodities. Like what steps can you take to help manage that currency burden in particular? Still like goes to Christmas pass right now. So, curious how you sort of react to that question?

James Quincey

Well, first, managing that whole gamut of various macro problems. When macro problems come out of which foreign exchange is one of them. The question is not just, well, what is it going to be next week or next year? The question is how important is it to know the answer of what scenario we’re in? In other words, how does it affect the decisions that I have to make? If oil is going to be $80, $90, or $120, what am I going to do differently? What decisions can I make and what can I do differently depending on the scenario? Is it going to make me change my tactics? Do I need to know the answer or make a bet on the answer or I do.

I just need to be agile so that when I get to the point that I know the reality, I can adjust in the moment. Because if that then allows the organization to focus on remaining agile, but also focus on the decisions, it can control. The most boring business plan presentations, whether they come in and go, well, there’s 20 scenarios for next year and we don’t know which one it is. And then you run out of time to say, well, what are you actually doing about it? It doesn’t really matter. The scenario actually mean I have to decide something different. Or can I just run with it until I get there and be agile at the point.

So, then, the next thing on foreign exchange, I mean, first I think this will end up being the first time in the last 15 years where foreign exchange is negative high single digits when U.S. dollar EPS is actually great. Maybe it’s the second time. But it’s like — I think it’s a demonstration that the momentum and the strength of the business system have got to a point where that sort of dollar strengthening is not totally destabilizing our ability to grow the U.S. dollar EEP, which is a good place to get to.

What that is going to turn into next year. I mean, it’s back to my first bit of the answer, which is anyone’s guess, but we’re very focused on continuing to grow the U.S. dollar EPS. We’re not going to sacrifice the long-term just to make that happen in the short-term. We’re going to remain focused on leaning into growth, focus on long-term development. But we would be unhappy if the U.S. dollar didn’t grow. That’s not a commitment to make it grow for those that are paying attention. But it was certainly is a sharp focus for us going, and we’ll have to see. We’ll have to see. We spent so long with the dollar strengthening without creating international inflation, but finally we got inflation and the dollar strengthening. I don’t know what it’s going to look like next year. I don’t know whether we’re going to have more inflation without the dollar strengthening or both inflation and dollar strengthening or less inflation and the dollar. I mean, it could be anything. We will have to cross that bridge when we get to it.

Lauren Lieberman

Okay. Just on the topic of your global presence, you probably know I did a bunch of work earlier this year and speaking to a wide range of your bottling network, public and private companies across the globe. And generally speaking cold world seems to be a pretty happy place. But what did kind of come out of that work was the identification and discussion of the structural complexities in the U.S. market, that leave room. And you said there’s no perfect model, but that leave room for further tweaks the way the U.S. is structured. I’m just curious how you would characterize the domestic operating landscape today, and where you do see opportunities to explore further adjustment to the model.

James Quincey

Yeah. I think, the first starting point is, it’s an adolescent to the U.S. I mean, it may be the longest running bottling operation in the world, but the new form of it is relatively new. It was — it came in the last — ultimately the last five to 10 years. Whereas the International operations have been operating in their current form for much longer. And so, there’s a well — logically speaking, it’s a better and more well-oiled machine. And so yeah, with the new way of operating U.S. is relatively new. And, of course, there are two. Some of which we have made recently in the last couple of years, because — so back up and when the U.S. system was refranchised, it was largely around bottle count. It was largely around sparkling.

And that left the company with a lot of the hot fill infrastructure, some of the water infrastructure. And so, we have taken the decision in the last few years to get out of some of the water manufacturing businesses to use some top packers [ph], actually the bottles of use and top packers as well, which was great because then it free up deadlines to make more sparkling, as demand came back for bottle count and sparkling. So, it’s a total win for everyone.

We have also looked at doing some of the same things with hot fill. We still have some facilities. And so, there’s no questioning exactly. And so there are tweaks. And I think the bottling system is very engaged in like, how can we continue to make this better? They’ve had a good success run the last five years, so it’s not broken. But everyone is focused on how can we continue to optimize that so we can really continue to see the U.S. bottling system, both continue to grow, win, and be profitable.

Lauren Lieberman

Okay. Great. Really, few minutes left. So, I just wanted to ask, one kind of final, bigger picture question. You first spoke to us at this conference just after you were named COO in 2015, and just — which is now very long time ago. But reflecting back on the experience you’ve had leading the company since that time, knowing what you know now, what’s been maybe the most meaningful change that’s improved, Coke’s value proposition, very dynamic operating environment and maybe anything you would’ve done differently. If you could go back and talk to yourself seven years ago.

James Quincey

That’s the best. Yeah. That’s the different question.

Lauren Lieberman

Because we [indiscernible].

James Quincey

No. I think, the most important decision was to get completely focused on growth. If you wind the clock back to that conference seven years ago, there were all sorts of — actually not the people in this room because many of them were changed and people in that conference like, wow, why are you bothering? Coke’s not going to black, it’s dead. Like give up, go on, do something else. And I came out that conference with a very clear view that the CPG was segmenting into three buckets. There was the bottom bucket where the people who like didn’t have a clue.

Then, there was the third bucket where people had either concluded that their category was not going to be a growth category, or some variant to that, and had decided essentially to bring forward the terminal value in the MPV by jacking up the margins. And that was producing a lot of good results in those years in the short term, and a lot of share price growth.

And then there was the third bucket, which was the harder bucket, but it was like, no, no, I’m not going to bring forward terminal value, but I am going to focus on driving growth in the category for the very long-term. And I think, for me, that was always the gold medal idea that my category is not going to grow, but I’m going to crank up margins was the silver metal category. Even though at the time, people were trying to convince me it was the gold medal category. And then there was the bronze.

And so, the decision to take no, the cult system, firstly, they couldn’t execute the silver metal strategy, but we’re going to go for the gold medal strategy. We’re going to focus on growth. We’re going to sort out all the business system, the refranchising the cost structure, et cetera, et cetera. So that we can get laser-focused on driving the system to grow other growth rate with tweaks on the operating margin, but basically grow fast enough to drive the value of the company and the system to where it should be principally driven from revenue growth. And that I think was the most kind of decisive thing that was happened was the set growth in the center of everything.

And then following on from that was to back that up with the organizational and system culture work to support that growth approach. I had organizational structure pieces, but really it was the culture around. It’s all about the growth. Everything else is extraneous. And then, what would I say to my past self, or actually you say to whoever comes up, which is, of course, I’ve never met a CEO who said, I wish I’d gone slower. Of course, knowing what I know now I’ve done everything earlier, but that’s what it is.

End of Q&A

Lauren Lieberman

Okay. Great. Well, thank you so much for the time today. Everyone please join me in thanking James and the company for being here and on the beverages.

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