First American Financial Corporation’s (FAF) CEO Ken DeGiorgio on Q2 2022 Results – Earnings Call Transcript

First American Financial Corporation (NYSE:FAF) Q2 2022 Earnings Conference Call July 28, 2022 11:00 AM ET

Company Participants

Craig Barberio – VP, IR

Ken DeGiorgio – CEO

Mark Seaton – EVP & CFO

Conference Call Participants

Mark DeVries – Barclays

Bose George – KBW

Mark Hughes – Truist Securities

Ryan Gilbert – BTIG

John Campbell – Stephens

Geoffrey Dunn – Dowling & Partners

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the First American Financial Corporation’s Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions].

A copy of today’s press release is available on the First American’s website at www.firstam.com/investor. Please note that the call is being recorded and will be available for replay from the company’s investor website and for a short time by dialing (877) 660-6853 or (201) 612-7415 and enter the conference ID 13731471.

We will now turn the call over to Craig Barberio, Vice President, Investor Relations, to make an introductory statement.

Craig Barberio

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to First American’s earnings conference call for the second quarter of 2022.

Joining us today on the call will be our Chief Executive Officer, Ken DeGiorgio; and Mark Seaton, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Some of the statements made today may contain forward-looking statements that do not relate strictly to historical or current fact. These forward-looking statements speaks only as of the date they are made, and the Company does not undertake to update forward-looking statements to reflect circumstances or events that occur after the date the forward-looking statements are made.

Risks and uncertainties exist that may cause results to differ materially from those set forth in these forward-looking statements. For more information on these risks and uncertainties, please refer to this morning’s earnings release and the Risk Factors discussed in our Form 10-K and subsequent SEC filings.

Our presentation today contains certain non-GAAP financial measures that we believe provide additional insight into the operational efficiency and performance of the company relative to earlier periods and relative to the company’s competitors. For more details on these non-GAAP financial measures, including presentation with and reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financials, please refer to this morning’s earnings release, which is available on our website at www.firstam.com.

I’d now like to turn the call over to Ken DeGiorgio.

Ken DeGiorgio

Thank you, Craig.

The company delivered strong results in the second quarter with revenue of $2.1 billion and earnings of $1.1 per share, or $1.97 per share excluding net investment losses.

Our Title segment margin was 11.7% or 13.9%, excluding net investment losses. While we operate in a cyclical business, we have a strong presence in all market segments including resale, refinance, commercial, new home and default, which can provide a level of diversification. So while rising interest rates have slowed our residential business, our commercial business, for example has grown an impressive 30% this quarter and is on track to achieve another record year.

We are also beginning to realize the benefit of higher interest rates at our bank and on other escrow and tax deferred exchange balances.

Investment income increased by $23 million in our Title segment this quarter and we now expect to add $200 million to annualized investment income by year-end up from the $150 million that we discussed with you on our last call.

As I suggested earlier, our residential purchase business declined this quarter. Open orders were down 12%, with June down 18% compared with last year. So far in July, this trend is continuing with open purchase orders down approximately 20% compared with last year.

Given the decline in residential real estate activity and the uncertain economic outlook, we continue our focus on expense management. As you would expect, we are acting most aggressively in the business units with the greatest exposure to the declining residential market. We will see much of the benefit from these reductions beginning in the third quarter. Additional expense reductions are under away in July, and we are closely monitoring order levels to further balance expense levels as needed going forward.

While we continue to manage our cost structure, we also remain steadfastly committed to investing in strategic initiatives that support our company’s long-term growth and operational efficiency, despite their impact on near-term profitability.

Significant among these is Endpoint, our digital title and settlement company that we built from the ground up. Endpoint has attracted leading talent that has developed technology to streamline the closing process and power prop tech companies and investors looking to scale their operations. After demonstrating strong customer acceptance in early test markets, Endpoint is rapidly building a national footprint and is currently operating in 27 states and by year-end expects to be licensed in 43 states.

Another of these initiatives is ServiceMac, the mortgage sub-servicing business we acquired last year. Since its founding in 2018, ServiceMac rapidly achieved the sixth largest market share position. While ServiceMac has high potential as a standalone business, significant synergies exist with our other operations, in particular our bank which can hold deposits administered by ServiceMac.

Lastly, while we have successfully automated the title production process for certain refinance transactions, we are now focused on solving Instant Title decisioning for purchase transactions, which is more complex. Our industry-leading property record and title plant assets put us in a unique position to solve this problem, which when solved promises to improve the customer experience and increase our efficiency. We expect to test this instant decisioning initiative with customers in two large markets by year-end.

This quarter, we continue to prioritize share repurchases, acquiring 3.9 million shares and through July 27, an additional 963,000 shares. Since the beginning of this year, we have repurchased approximately 6% of our shares outstanding as of the end of last year. Reflecting its confidence in the long-term prospects of our company, our board recently approved a new $400 million share repurchase authorization, which enhances our capital deployment flexibility going forward.

Now, I’d like to turn the call over to Mark for a more detailed discussion of our financial results.

Mark Seaton

Thank you, Ken.

This quarter we earned $1.01 per diluted share. Included in this quarter’s results were $0.96 of net investment losses, primarily related to the change in fair value of marketable equity securities. Excluding these losses we earned $1.97 per diluted share.

Revenue in our Title segment was $2.1 billion flat compared with the same quarter of 2021. Commercial revenue was $289 million, a 30% increase over last year. We continue to see strength in the commercial market as closed orders, average revenue per order and a number of large liability transactions all showed growth over the prior-year.

Our escrow balances totaled $14 billion at the end of the quarter, up from $11 billion at year-end which indicates a healthy pipeline for commercial activity as we enter the second half of the year.

Purchase revenue was up 2% during the quarter driven by a 15% increase in the average revenue per order, partially offset by an 11% decline in the number of orders closed. Our revenue for order for purchase transactions benefited from recent acquisitions of Escrow companies in Southern California. We include escrow revenue from these transactions in the numerator without a corresponding title order in the denominator. Excluding acquisitions, average revenue per order would have been up 6%, which is more in line with what we would expect given home price appreciation.

Refinance revenue declined 58% relative to last year, due to the increase in mortgage rates.

In the agency business, revenue was $937 million, up 4% from last year. Given the reporting lag in agent revenues of approximately one quarter, we are experiencing growth in remittances related to Q1 economic activity.

Our information and other revenues were $305 million, up 2% relative to the last year. Revenue growth was primarily due to the recently completed acquisitions of ServiceMac and Mother Lode.

Investment income within the title insurance and services segment was $70 million, a 49% increase relative to the prior-year. As we’ve stated previously, we expect to generate $15 million to $20 million of annualized investment income in the Title segment for each 25 basis point increase in the federal funds rate. We believe this estimate is still appropriate and expect to see the benefit of the Fed’s July rate hike beginning in August. Based on the current forward curve for the federal funds rate, we expect our investment income to grow by approximately $200 million on an annualized basis in 2022.

On the expense side, we are reducing expenses in areas of the company that are being impacted by the slowdown in residential activity. Year-to-date through July, we had over 600 staff reductions. However, our overall employee count is increased, primarily related to our acquisition of Mother Lode. In the second quarter, we incurred $11 million of severance expense.

Pre-tax margin in the Title segment was 11.7% or 13.9%, excluding net investment losses. As Ken highlighted, we continue to invest in businesses and innovation initiatives that we believe will positively contribute to our profitability over time. But at this point of lifecycle detract from our financial results. The three initiatives Ken discussed Endpoint, ServiceMac and instant decisioning for purchase transactions together generated a pre-tax loss of $20 million this quarter, impacting our pre-tax margin by 150 basis points.

We expect ServiceMac to turn profitable by the end of this year. And we expect Endpoint losses to bottom out in 2022, with earnings improvement in 2023 and beyond.

Turning to the Specialty Insurance segment, total revenue in our Home Warranty business totaled $102 million down 5% compared with last year. Excluding net investment gains and losses, total revenue increased 2% to $106 million. Pre-tax income in Home Warranty was $9 million down from $13 million in the prior-year. Excluding that investment gains and losses, pre-tax income was $13 million up from $10 million last year. The loss ratio in Home Warranty was 52.4% down from 55.5% in 2021 driven by a lower frequency of claims.

The wind down of the property and casualty business remains on track for completion in the third quarter. The business had a pre-tax loss of $5 million this quarter. As of June 30, the company had no active homeowner policies and a small number of renter policies remained in force. The effective tax rate for the quarter of 22.1% is less than our normalized tax rate of 24.5% as a result of fluctuations in forecasted earnings between our insurance and non-insurance businesses, since our insurance businesses generally pays state premium tax in lieu of income tax.

In the second quarter, we repurchased 3.9 million shares for a total of $227 million at an average price of $57.93. So far in Q3, we repurchased an additional 963,000 shares for a total of $52 million at an average price of $54.20.

Our debt-to-capital ratio as of June 30 was 29.6% or 25.0% excluding secured financings payable. At the end of the quarter, we had $750 million of accumulated other comprehensive loss primarily due to unrealized losses in our fixed income portfolio related to the rise in interest rates. This loss contributed 250 basis points to our debt-to-capital ratio. Over time we expect our unrealized loss position to narrow as their duration is 4.5 years, the average credit quality is AA plus and we don’t have a need to liquidate the portfolio to generate cash.

Now I would like to turn the call back over to the operator to take your questions.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions].

Our first question comes from the line of Mark DeVries with Barclays. You may proceed with your question.

Mark DeVries

Yes, thanks. Just wanted to start on the commercial business. And it sounds like your pipeline is quite strong, which is a bit surprising, just based on at least what we’re hearing anecdotally from this the larger, more institutional end of the market where we’re just hearing things are not transacting. So could you just give us a little bit better sense of kind of what the sources of strengths are? Were there any kind of causes of concern that that activity is about to decline and any kind of differences across different types of property types and end markets?

Ken DeGiorgio

Yes, this is Ken; I’ll take the first crack at that. As we mentioned, I mean we had a great quarter. And we’re still seeing a lot of demand in the commercial space. There’s a lot of capital chasing deals. And in the quarter, this is across asset classes, it was obviously led by multifamily and industrial, but the demand was across asset classes, across geographies, though some of the urban core markets like New York, San Francisco, LA were weakest. But again, across the geographies, and across deal sizes as well, though in the quarter large transactions were probably up significantly. But again we saw it across deal sizes, and frankly, we looked good going into the second half. But as Mark mentioned, escrow balances are up over a year-end. So we see a strong pipeline. We were anticipating and as we mentioned to have another record setting year, so I don’t — it maybe we’re defying some of what we’re reading out there, what you’re seeing out there in the marketplace, but we’re still seeing strong demand.

Mark DeVries

Okay, that’s helpful. And then just turning to Endpoint, just kind of want to better understand, what the end game is there. It sounds like it’s going to be a drag on earnings for the indefinite future, kind of when do you see that becoming profitable or is the real contribution going to come from lift you get in kind of core title?

Ken DeGiorgio

Well, I think I mean, we don’t know exactly when yet is going to turn profitable. As we mentioned, we think the losses are going to bottom out this year, and then we’ll start and then the earnings will start growing into 2023 and beyond. But I think the endgame there is twofold. One is to improve the efficiency in our business. But secondarily is to meet the demands of a changing customer base, I mean there are customers that want this digital first experience and Endpoint is rapidly expanding to provide it. And that’s on, I guess, what you’d call the retail side and also with prop tech companies. So again, the endgame with Endpoint really is first and foremost, to meet that customer demand. But we do expect — we do expect it to generate efficiencies for the core business.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Bose George with KBW. You may proceed with your question.

Bose George

Hey, good morning. Actually just sticking to Endpoint, the $28 million in losses you mentioned, how is that broken out between Endpoint and ServiceMac and the other piece?

Ken DeGiorgio

Thanks for the question, Bose. So in the second quarter, we had about $10 million of a pre-tax loss in ServiceMac which as we mentioned, we think that’ll flip to breakeven later this year, Endpoint had about a $12 million pre-tax loss this quarter and our purchased automation initiative was about $6 million.

Bose George

Okay, great. Thanks, and then actually wanted to switch and ask about leverage. Can you remind us, where you think you want that to the range to be and whether that 25% now how do you think about further buybacks and or acquisitions?

Ken DeGiorgio

Well, 25% is highest we’ve been in some time. And we’ve always talked about our target debt-to-cap being around 20. But we’re real comfortable operating at 25. Our covenant says, we can’t go above 35. So we got plenty of room there. And one of the reasons why our debt-to-cap has shot up, the bigger reason is because of the unrealized losses we have in our fixed income portfolio, which were roughly about $900 million at the end of June. So we don’t really need to liquidate the portfolio, we feel like those losses will eventually come back over time. And so we’re real comfortable with where we are 25 right now.

Bose George

Okay. And actually, did you mention the duration of the portfolio, so the timeline in which that $900 million should come back?

Ken DeGiorgio

The duration of our — we think about our portfolio is like our bank portfolio, and then our insurance company’s portfolio. But on a consolidated basis, the duration is four-and-a-half years, little bit less than the bank, little bit higher than the insurance company.

Bose George

Okay. And so that should be the kind of the rough timeline for it to come back that that loss?

Ken DeGiorgio

Yes, roughly yes. I mean it depends on what happens with interest rates. But yes, I mean we feel like definitely by four and half years, we’ll have recruited it.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Mark Hughes with Truist. You may proceed with your question.

Mark Hughes

Yes, thanks. Good morning. Did you give the order trend in July for commercial?

Mark Seaton

We didn’t. But so far in July, our open orders are down 10% from prior-year in July.

Mark Hughes

Does that I mean when we think about your increase in escrow balances, is that consistent with kind of a down 10% trend, or what you’re seeing in escrow funds implies a little better than that?

Mark Seaton

Well, I — we track our commercial orders, I wouldn’t say it’s, unlike on the residential side, where we’ve got a very consistent average fee profile. The commercial, we don’t read to end of the orders if they’re up 10% or down 10% just because the size of the deals matters so much more in commercial. And so, yes, orders are down 10%. But it doesn’t give us too much heartburn. I mean, what we look at is, our balances in terms of what the deals sizes are about to close. And we have our conversations with our customers. And as Ken mentioned, thoroughly in his remarks, and we feel really good about the second half of this year. But yes, orders are down 10%.

Mark Hughes

Very good. And then the impact of the instant decisioning, assuming you have success, and that works out as you anticipate, what does that mean in terms of the cost structure?

Mark Seaton

Well, the instant decisioning initiative, I mean the primary reason for it is to improve the customer experience, we’ve seen that with our instant decisioning for refinance transactions, if we can get that with purchase transactions is very complex, we think we’re in a unique ability to provide that, given the data assets that we have. So it’s mostly and improve the customer experience initiative. However, we do think there’s going to be cost savings over time. And so we’ll have to kind of see how those bills play out. But if you can provide it instantly through data, it reduces your manual process and will be savings there.

Ken DeGiorgio

Yes, Mark, I would add to it. It’s very, we’re in very early days with respect to this, this particular title automation ever, it’s going to as I mentioned, we’re not even doing, we are going to do an MVP in two large markets at the end of the year, but we’re in very early days. So we’ll probably know better in the coming months, if not years, what the exact cost savings will be.

Mark Hughes

Understood, and then your point on the Endpoint profitability, was that the loss associated with that would bottom this year, and then it would be progressively less negative or would that also hit breakeven in 2023?

Mark Seaton

It would be less negative. So we’ll have a pre-tax loss of roughly $50 million this year, and that’ll be — that’ll narrow next year and beyond. We won’t flip to profitability next year, but the losses will narrow.

Operator

[Operator Instructions].

Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Gilbert with BTIG. You may proceed with your questions.

Ryan Gilbert

Hi, thanks. Good morning, everyone. First questions on ARPO in the purchase business, I think you said post 6% excluding the escrow acquisitions. Can you just talk about how that trended through the quarter and how you expect that to trend over the rest of the year? I think with overall home price appreciation probably more resilient than I expected but some headwinds from higher interest rates potentially in the second half of the year.

Mark Seaton

Thanks for the question, so when we look at the purchase ARPO and how it trended through the quarter, it’s fallen through the quarter. So in April, our purchase ARPO was 17%. In May, it was 16%, in June it was 12%. And so for the quarter, when you weighed that all together, it was up 15%. And so when we look at Q3, I mean based on the trend and just based off of cooling home price appreciation, we think it’s going to obviously come down from the 15%, so the run rate as of June is about 12%. And so we definitely are seeing it come down here.

Ryan Gilbert

Okay, got it. And I apologize if I missed this but I think last quarter we talked about revenue flat for the year is that do you think that’s still in the cards or have trends in residential kind of deteriorated more than we were expecting after 1Q?

Mark Seaton

I think things are deteriorating a little bit, I mean just based off of where purchase orders are. But overall, I think revenue will be down called low-single-digits. I mean we’re not seeing anywhere the declines that you’re probably seeing in the headlines or in terms of mortgage originations. So it’ll be down a little bit call it low-single-digits.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Campbell with Stephens. You may proceed with your question.

John Campbell

Mark, you briefly touched on the effect of the acquired rev on the revenue per order. I’m trying to understand the Mother Lode impact on your order count. It sounds like if I understand it correctly, that Mother Lode revenue came on. But you’re not reflecting that in order count. So that drove the fee profile higher, but maybe if you could provide a little more color on that and maybe specifically, how Mother Lode is going to impact the order count moving forward?

Mark Seaton

There’s different ways to cut that I would say that kind of excluding Mother Lode, when you just look at our purchase orders in July, excluding Mother Lode were about 23% down on year-over-year basis. When you add Mother Lode in there, it’s about we’re down about 20%. So it’s added about three percentage point difference in our purchase order change year-over-year.

John Campbell

Okay, that’s helpful. And I’m trying to better understand so how are you receiving the revenue without the orders?

Mark Seaton

Well, there are certain orders that we get directly. So when you look in the second quarter, we had about $37 million of revenue from Mother Lode, half of that was booked in direct revenue, and we’re getting orders. And we would take 100% of premium we booked in direct revenue, the other half of that revenue is booked in information and other where there’s — we’re really getting 88% of the premium, but the other 12% on average is going to a different underwriter just because we haven’t fully captured those underwriting synergies yet. So it’s really split 50:50. And over time, that will migrate more and more towards direct revenue.

John Campbell

Okay, that makes sense. And then just from a geographic standpoint, I mean, it looks like from what we can tell the West Coast is falling much sharper than the rest of the regions. Is there a way I guess first the direct business or the title orders you guys report are obviously coming from direct business. What is your weighting towards the West Coast there? And then maybe if there’s any kind of anecdotal call outs for kind of what you guys are seeing in the market there?

Mark Seaton

Well, I would just say that like when we talk about our direct orders, those are really our direct operations. And we’re direct in 27 states, which is mostly the West Coast. I mean we’re in Florida. But mostly, it’s just the West Coast. And that’s one of the reasons why perhaps your agency businesses is outperforming and growing faster, just because the East Coast is doing a little bit better.

John Campbell

Okay, that’s very helpful. And then the last question for me, this is maybe a silly question. But in the past, you guys called out $150 million investment in Endpoint. Was that a one-time investment or is that essentially running through your P&L? You think that will accumulate $150 million over time?

Ken DeGiorgio

Well, that was a commitment, I mean we were committed to make that investment. So I wouldn’t consider it running through our P&L. I think I focus on the numbers that that Mark DeVries with respect to what’s running through the P&L, but we wanted to make it clear, we were committed to invest at least that amount.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Geoffrey Dunn with Dowling & Partners. You may proceed with your question.

Geoffrey Dunn

Thanks, good morning. Mark, can you review the company’s liquid resources for capital management? What was Holdco balance at year-end, what’s your remaining regulated div capacity this year, non-regulated sources and are you still targeting a minimum 250 balance of Holdco?

Mark Seaton

We are charging roughly 250 minimum. As of the end of June we had $349 million of cash at the holding company. When we look at our the amount that we can dividend from our insurance companies for the second half of the year it’s $474 million. And we plan out in terms of what dividends we expect to get and we max out the dividends that our insurance companies that we have no insurance. So we expect at this point that we’ll dividend roughly about $500 million of cash from both our regulated and non-regulated subs in the second half of this year.

And of course, we have in terms of liquidity, you’re asking about, you get all $700 million on our line, none of it’s drawn. So we’re in a good spot in terms of liquidity.

Geoffrey Dunn

I assume though, specifically for share repurchase. I would be surprised if you draw down more debt when you’re already at 25%. Is that fair?

Mark Seaton

Yes, I think that’s fair. I think that’s fair. I mean in theory, we don’t really have an issue with borrowing to buy back stock, but I think when our debt-to-cap was at 25. And at this point in the cycle, it’s not something we would do.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. That concludes this morning’s call. We would like to remind listeners that today’s call will be available for replay on the company’s website or by dialing (877) 660-6853 or (201) 612-7415 and enter the conference ID 13731471. So company would like to thank you for your participation.

This concludes today’s conference. You may now disconnect your lines at this time. We thank you for your participation. Enjoy the rest of your day.

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