LiqTech International, Inc. (NASDAQ:LIQT) Q3 2022 Earnings Conference Call November 10, 2022 9:00 AM ET
Company Participants
Robert Blum – Lytham Partners
Fei Chen – Chief Executive Officer
Simon Stadil – Chief Financial Officer
Conference Call Participants
Robert Brown – Lake Street Capital
Operator
Good day and welcome to the LiqTech International Reports’ Third Quarter of Fiscal Year 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the conference call over to Mr. Robert Blum of Lytham Partners. Mr. Blum, the floor is yours, sir.
Robert Blum
Great, thank you so much. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us on today’s conference call to discuss LiqTech international’s third quarter 2022 financial results. Joining us on today’s call from the company are Fei Chen, Chief Executive Officer; Alex Buehler, Former Interim Chief Executive Officer and Member of the Board of Directors; and Simon Stadil, Chief Financial Officer. Before I turn the call over to management, let me remind listeners that there will be an open Q&A session at the end of the call. Before we begin with prepared remarks, we submit for the record the following statement.
This conference call may contain forward-looking statements. Although the forward-looking statements reflect the good faith and judgment of management, forward-looking statements are inherently subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to be materially different from those discussed during the conference call. The company therefore urges all listeners to carefully review and consider the various disclosures made in the reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission including risk factors that attempt to advice interested parties other risks that may affect our business, financial condition, operations and cash flows. If one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize or if the underlying assumptions prove incorrect, the company’s actual results may vary materially from those expected or projected. The company therefore encourages all listeners not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which pertain only as of this date and the date of the release in conference call. The company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect any events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this release in conference call.
Now, I’d like to turn the call over to Fei Chen, CEO of LiqTech International. Fei, please proceed.
Fei Chen
Thank you, Robert. Let me start out by saying what an honor it is to be the CEO of LiqTech at this important stage of the company’s development and how grateful I am for the boss strong support. I have now been at LiqTech for eight weeks and the response from entire organizations has been overwhelmingly warm, including some many of you our investors with whom I have had the opportunity to speak. I believe we all understand the tremendous opportunity that is in front of us to leverage our highly unique technological advantages, brand competences and sustainability value to build a growing and profitable business in the years to come. I need more than eight weeks to provide you with step by step details on our going forward strategic plan, let me provide some high level observations and initial thoughts on how we are accelerating our commercial and business development processes.
First, it needs to be a great interest that we have tremendous technologies. For those not familiar, I was the international innovation platform director responsible for establishing Grundfos’ water treatment division. Grundfos is one of the world leaders in the development, manufacturing and the distribution of water and the liquid pumps. Where at Grundfos in 2012 I was introduced to LiqTech’s technology. At that time I saw the uniqueness of LiqTech’s silicon carbide membrane technology and reached out to the company for a potential collaboration to accelerate the commercialization of this membrane technology. Unfortunately, LiqTech rejected the idea electing instead to go it alone. It is therefore very interesting for me all of the years, these years later to assume the responsibility to accelerate the commercialization of LiqTech membrane technology, which is even stronger today.
Strategically, it’s rather obvious that we are currently too reliance on large silicon sales to generate revenues. To balance this reliance we are moving quickly to maintain and grow our markets where we have increasing potential for recurring revenue such as pool and spa systems, diesel particulate filters, membranes, plastics and aftermarkets. For instance, just last week we launched our new Aqua Solution membrane that that demonstrates notable improvements to our existing member solutions both in production process stability as well as final product robustness. You likely have not heard us talk much about the pool and the spa market, but from my experience, this brings an imminent opportunity for recurring revenue like we had preserved for many years with DPS. As a point of reference, we have five pool system delivery trended for the fourth quarter, so we are very excited about this market and intend to aggressively pursue it in the years to come.
Further our agreement in the Middle East addressing produced water treatment for oil and gas production where we are operating in a build, own and operate model has similar recurring revenue characteristics. The commercial test unit for this produced water initially deployed in May 2022 has been up and run for the past three months demonstrating tremendous results. Our 99% of the feed water passing through the system is being delivered back as clean permit for reinjection. The quality of the clean water permit is better than the performance requirements originally defined by the end user. Furthermore, the system operates with a low amount water and chemicals and has soon to be energy efficient. We are extremely pleased by this commercial test results as we believe they are a gaining factor to our expansion in the region. Importantly with this result in hand, we are working intensively and go to market plan for produced water in Middle East region. I am excited to disclose more on this in the near future.
Another dimension of recurring revenue is membrane sales. We have applied an intensified strategic focus on membrane sales and achieved good results in sales order. Specifically at the end of September we closed a large order consisting of nearly 1,200 membrane elements. I will provide more details in the future, but please understand that expanding our commercial activities where we can achieve more recurring business is a team strategic focus going forward. Another area of focus is the establishment of distribution agreements within key market verticals. I have a long history of developing mutual beneficial relationships with distributors across the world within the water treatment market and I will look to leverage these relationships to extend our sales reach within selected end markets. I look forward to hearing more with you in the coming quarters on this front.
Where we work to expand our focus on recurring revenue opportunities and develop distributor relationships, we will maintain our current efforts to further develop system projects to our target markets including marine, scrubbers, black carbon, oil and gas, acid purification and others where we have a number of systems set to be delivered that will drive near-term revenue growth. Within marine scrubbers we are in the process of manufacturing 12 water treatment systems with delivery expected by the end of the year. We also have the planned delivery of the industry with the water system that we announced earlier this week along with the five pool systems I mentioned a moment ago – the delivery in quarter four. On top of that following the successful commissioning of our first system for asset purification market in the U.S., we are active discussion with this customer regarding a second system deployment at another site. Most likely this project is expected to ship in the first half of next year.
I will let Simon to provide details on the outlook for the fourth quarter, but in general based on our existing recurring revenue covered with system delivery planned for quarter four. We expect the revenue to lend at the lower end of the revenue range in company guidance that was provided in September. As you saw in two separate press releases issued recently, we are making some significant organizational changes to accelerate the commercial strategies that I have mentioned. In late September, we announced the appointments of Ms. Janne Pedersen as Vice President of Sales and Mr. Kim Hansen as Managing Director of LiqTech Plastics.
Kim has many years of leadership experience with international companies such as Mercuri International Group and Grundfos and was recently Managing Director of Flexiket, Intertek and Bording Link where he achieved successful turnarounds and transformations. Janne has wide industry knowledge in water treatment, membrane filtration and instrumentation. Having included a successful career in sales, business development and product management from firms such as Hach Lange, Grundfos, Diatom, FOSS Analytical and Alfa Laval. Janne joined us formally on November 1st and has provided immediate value to the organization.
Additionally, this week we announced the appointment of Tobias Baldrian Madsen as our new Head of Strategy and Business Intelligence as we work on advancing LiqTech to the next stage of commercial development. It is crucial that we define our market and customer focus based on sound business intelligence and formulate our strategy accordingly to ensure fast execution. I believe Tobias will make significant contribution given his business development experience and the relevant industry knowledge. Where we rapidly move forward with our plans, it is clearly important to note the operating backdrop. Since summer Europe has experienced the energy price the likes of which we have not experienced in decades. Electricity sport prices in September has increased 240% compared to January and the natural gas prices in September have increased 167% compared to January. The extraordinarily high electricity price has negatively impacted us with respect to cost and the margin.
Since our production for membranes and DPFs utilize high temperature furnaces that are heated by electricity. For some of our product category, the production cost has increased 30% to 40%. We are working intensely to communicate with our customers and the elevated price to define margins. The results are mixed at this point as we try to balance customer intention and the margin we are competing in a global market.
For future new sales, we will ensure the price increase are reflecting in our sales price. Nevertheless, we indeed experienced some slowdown in order closure in quarter three due to the energy crisis, macroeconomic uncertainty, high inflation and the rising interest rates. The combination of which has cut a lower second half outlook than what we expected before the summer. We communicated this to everyone on September 13. Generally, we do expect that situation will slowly stabilize although we might land at a higher plateau of energy price.
And I will turn the call over to Simon to review the numbers in more detail. Let me quickly summarize. Firstly, we are moving quickly to accelerate the commercial and the business development processes here at the company. We are continuously working to develop markets where we can create more predictable recurring revenue opportunities, leveraging our differentiated technology, working to overcome gauging sectors that has hinted certain end markets where we see opportunity for the numerous large system deployment.
Secondly, we will continue to drive opportunities through our traditional direct go-to market sales pathways, but also look to create new distributor relationships to address certain end markets. I have a strong history of creating successful agreements within the water treatment industry and the belief I can apply this to LiqTech. Currently, we have bought in highly accomplished commercial sales individuals that can – to develop end market strategies, but more importantly can exclude on those strategies. I believe the additions of Janne,Kim, Tobias and others will make significant contributions with their professional leadership skills and the rich industry knowledge.
And finally Simon will touch on this in a moment, but I want to confirm that everything we are doing we’ll be against the backdrop of achieving profitability. The organizational transition we are undertaking is proceeding with the emphasize on utilizing our existing core competencies within the company and the calibrate with our renewed strategic focus and maps dynamics. Similar to what Alex and Simon mentioned last quarter, we remain on track to achieve breakeven at around U.S. $7 million to U.S. $8 million per quarter in revenue. Moving more towards U.S. $7 million per quarter.
With that, let me turn the call over to Simon to review the financials in more detail after which I do wrap up with a few comments and then open the call to your questions. Simon, please proceed.
Simon Stadil
Thank you, Fei. Let me add some color on the financial highlights for the third quarter and full year outlook. Revenue for the quarter was 3.3 million compared to 4.1 million in the same period last year representing a 0.8 million or 20% decrease. This development reflects a quarter with stable contribution from our plastics, ceramics and aftermarket businesses, underpinned by increased share of membrane and spare part sales. However, the quarter was also impacted by a slowdown in water system deliveries due to reduced order intake and delayed shipments due to general supply chain issues and longer lead time on our core EQS [ph] membrane production.
The quarter also reflects a period with unprecedented volatility in Europe. This due to geopolitical unrest related to the Ukraine-Russia conflict with a significant surge in both gas and electricity prices across Europe and also appeared with increased macroeconomic uncertainty and rising inflation.
For our business, the uncertainty did result in reduced order intake for our ceramic DPF and plastic products, which was partly offset by the delivery of large, marine and on-road DPF orders for the Asian market secured earlier in the year.
Looking close at the numbers for each of our segments. Ceramics reported $1.9 million in revenue underpin by a couple of large membrane and DPF orders followed by water and plastic revenue of 0.8 million and 0.7 million respectively. The reduction in plastics revenue of 22% compared to same period last year generally reflects a slow start to the quarter with lower than expected order intake during European summer holiday, amidst the escalating energy crisis.
Turning to the water systems business. The revenue of 0.8 million represented a 47% reduction compared to Q3 last year with the lack of system deliveries explaining the reduction partly offset by increased aftermarket activities, more specifically commissioning and general spare part sales.
Looking at the currency development, the U.S. dollar appreciation against the Euro did continue into the third quarter with the year-to-date September FX rate 12% higher than the same period last year.
On that note, I can confirm that approximately 70% of our year-to-date revenue has been denominated in non-U.S. dollar currency, predominantly Euro and DKK. In terms of outlook for the fourth quarter, I echo the remarks made by Fei indicating a Q4 and full year outlook at the low end of the previously communicated guidance. This negatively impacted by the challenging market environment and overall delays incoming orders and FX.
Before diving further into the numbers, I like to highlight that we, despite the challenging market backdrop, have been working thoroughly and with clear and decisive measures to right size our business and restore financial stability.
On that note, I’m pleased to see substantial improvements in both cash flow, fixed cost and OpEx reduction efforts. To be specific, our operating cash flow in the third quarter ended at negative 0.5 million representing a significant improvement compared to previous quarter’s run rate. Fixed cost and OpEx came down 19% sequentially and now more than 30% compared to the beginning of the year, which reflect our commitment to substantially reduce our breakeven point of the business measured on an adjusted EBITDA basis.
In the same context, I can confirm that we are on track to deliver a profitable business based on quarterly revenue breakeven around $7 million since at the low end of the previously communicated target of 7 million to 8 million.
With regards to cash flow outlook, I can confirm that the company continues to benefit from reduced CapEx commitments and the successful refinancing of the convertible note earlier this year. The company had as of September 30, less than $1 million of outstanding cash CapEx commitments and no interest payments due on the senior notes.
Furthermore, following the delivery and installation of the new production equipment in early 2023, our company will have ample capacity to significantly grow our water systems after market and ceramic membrane business without further investments over the near to medium term.
Now let me comment on the quarterly financials in more detail. The gross margin in the third quarter of 3% reflects low activity levels within our water systems business, but also the adverse impact from the escalating in anti-crisis in highly inflationary environment across Europe. This reducing our profitability across our core ceramics and plastic businesses.
The quarter was further challenged by non-recurring inventory adjustments and write-downs within our ceramics business, reflecting a proactive and proven review of our ceramics inventory for dated and slow moving products in the period with reduced activity and increased uncertainty.
On a more positive note, we successfully secured and delivered high margin membrane and marine DPF orders during the quarter as well as large aftermarket orders allowing for a stable sequential development in the reported gross margin, this despite the lower top line.
Furthermore, our increased focus on pricing discipline is continuing to support our underlying profitability, which combined with sequential reduction in fixed cost of $0.2 million did allow for significant improvement in both gross and contribution margin when excluding the non-recurring inventory adjustments previously I mentioned.
Turning to OpEx. Our total operating expenses for the quarter of $2.4 million represents a sequential reduction of 19% when adjusting for the second quarter restructuring cost. The continue reduction is a direct result of the planned cost reduction efforts and organizational right sizing announced earlier this year. The cost savings represent and mix up reduced employee costs as well as increased focus on reducing run rate travel, marketing, legal and IT costs.
Moving to the next item. Net other income in the third quarter was $0.5 million compared to a net other expense of $0.3 million in the same period of 2021. With the improvement explained by reduced interest expense and amortization costs related to the new and improved capital structure.
Concluding on the P&L, net loss for the period was $1.7 million compared to $2.9 million in the same period last year, indicating a vital step in the right direction with cost reductions and improved capital structure being the main drivers.
Moving to our cash flow and balance sheet. We ended the quarter with $17.6 million in cash down $2.1 million from last year – from the second quarter, sorry. With net cash used in operating and investing activities accounting for approximately 1 million and the remaining being lost in currency translation.
To summarize and reaffirm, we are committed to further improve our financial performance through incremental cost reductions, which together with the improved product mix and pricing discipline will pave the way for a business imbalance over the coming quarters from both a profitability, cash flow and capital structure perspective.
We are during the course of 2022, stabilized and right sized our business and is evident that we now will position to take the next step on our commercial and strategic journey.
Thanks for your continuous support and interest in LiqTech and over to you Fei.
Fei Chen
Thank you, Simon. Look into quarter four, we have a busy quarter ahead of us as we focus executing the various initiatives I mentioned today and delivering a number of systems that are currently in production. In the coming weeks, we will further define the growth strategy and substantiate our sales forecast and the budget for 2023. We will translate this into guidance and communicate with everyone at appropriated time. One final comment that I would like to make and that is to thank Alex for his leadership over the past six months. This [indiscernible] and the guidance have helped to position the company going forward. It’s never an easy task to assume the role as the interim CEO, but by all accounts he handled it to.
I am extremely excited to be leading this company as I believe the best days are ahead of us.
I thank you all for your time today. At this point, I would like to turn the call over to the operator to address any questions from audience. Mike, please proceed.
Question-and-Answer Session
Operator
Yes, ma’am. Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And the first question we have will come from Robert Brown of Lake Street Capital. Please go ahead.
Robert Brown
Hi, good morning. Just quickly if you – I’m kind of wondering about the pricing environment. I know you’ve taken some pricing actions. How has that impacted the different pipelines in different markets? I presume it depends on the market, but how’s the pricing impact been able to be flowed through?
Simon Stadil
Hi, Rob. It’s Simon here. I’ll start out and then Fei can comment further. So, clearly, if – folks on our products plastics, DPFs, membranes, we haven’t seen a price erosion. We have on the other side seen pricing being fairly stable in a very inflationary environment. Clearly, we have worked to increase our pricing to offset the cost inflation we have seen. And obviously, that’s always a balancing act, but in terms of price competition and price situation that’s not on the agenda. On the system side, there is obviously a more complex picture where we are trying to leverage the value proposition and the value we are creating for our clients to basically increase our pricing and achieve a high contribution margin process business going forward. But at this point in time, I would say it is a fairly robust picture on pricing and no price erosion.
Fei Chen
Yes, I think I would like to add on top of that the new end markets, which we mentioned today, we really believe because our solution has a unique property there, so we might have much better price in the future.
Robert Brown
Okay, thank you. And then I am just wondering if you can elaborate a little bit on your efforts to expand the distribution channels in water. Maybe what sort of is the distribution environment there and how have you seen that kind of developed historically and what sort of the opportunity in the water market with adding a distribution relationships?
Fei Chen
And I mean we have different end markets. I just give you a concrete example. For example, for the pool and the spa market definitely is a very much distributor driven market already in beforehand. So we just need to choose the right distributor and go close to them and really get commitment from them and deliver what we need. So this is what we’re already being doing today. We just want to get further strength and on the distribution side. And the press – produced water I mentioned today is a new area because we have the systems in Middle East region is up running now. With this data in hand we will be able to find the right partner to go into this region and really pushing out in this application. So you will hear more from us. We are looking at the different market segment and choosing the right partner and really pushing out distribution channel.
Robert Brown
Okay, thank you. I’ll turn it over.
Simon Stadil
Thanks, Rob.
Operator
The next question we have will come from John Litman [ph], Investor.
Unidentified Analyst
Hi, good morning. Thanks for your time. Can you hear me?
Simon Stadil
Yes. Hi, John.
Unidentified Analyst
Hi. Hi, great, thank you. Just a couple questions on the $7 million to $8 million to breakeven, are we estimating that to get to that level we need to get back into the marine scrubber business? Or are you in the belief that the current businesses that we’re generating revenue from in this quarter are substantial enough to get to that breakeven point [Technical Difficulty] of the membrane to get to that?
Fei Chen
As we – as I mentioned earlier we have a strategy in two steps. We would like to really emphasize our recurring business and that means the pool and the spa membrane and plastics and also DPFs areas we want to grow there. And on top of that we have the different end market where marine scrubber will be one of the end markets. So with the two combinations we do together in order to achieve the $7 million to $8 million and we believe with the reoccurring – recurring business will give us a very solid foundation and build on top system delivery. So this is two leg strategy we are working on. And the marine scrubber will be contributing, but because of the delay of the legislation, we do not expect big growth in that segment.
Unidentified Analyst
Thank you. Thank you, Fei. And just another question with the 17.6 or so million dollars in cash on the balance sheet, do you think that I mean it’s no small task for you to more than double your current sales to get to break even. Do you think that you have the ample liquidity to get to that breakeven level with the balance sheet you have today?
Simon Stadil
Yes. Yes, we have. I think it is a bigger picture here, John. First of all, you need to look at what we have achieved this year. I think the capital structure obviously is an important vital step, getting the convertible note of our balance sheet, reducing our CapEx commitments and really using the CapEx group spend this year to invest into the right machinery. We have significant capacity at our facilities in Denmark, so we don’t need CapEx over the coming years to grow our business even significant growth. So that gives us a lot of comfort. And finally with the cost reduction that we have achieved so far this year down 30% on OpEx and fixed costs since Q1. We don’t have a long runway to get to cash flow breakeven. And with 17.6 million in the bank account I’m very confident – we are very confident that we have enough runway to get this company up to where it belongs.
Unidentified Analyst
That’s fantastic. One last question for some of the not sophisticated investors including myself out there. If you do get to breakeven, the incremental revenue generated, Fei, from these new applications, I’m not as familiar, within the full space outside of in some of these other verticals. What is the incremental contribution margin from these recurring revenues or new revenue applications? I’d assume pretty high margin and high contribution once you pass that chasm of getting to break even.
Simon Stadil
Yes, you’re absolutely correct. I think one of the key mechanisms to achieve stability is obviously growing your top line or even better also improving your contribution margin at the same time. And that’s obviously a strategic focus of ours. I think a minimum of 40% we need to deliver on, we are striving higher than that and even in Q1 this year and you look into our Q3 numbers and adjust some of the non-recurring items, we are above 40%. And that’s basically a focus of ours. So you can say for every million dollars of implemented revenue, we should have at least 40% fall through to Q2 [ph] EBITDA and help us achieve that cash flow stability faster than what we’ve guided to you in the past.
And as also mentioned today, we guided to seven to eight. We now confident in saying it’s more seven and if we achieve higher, better pricing, maybe it could go lower than that. But again, I’m very cautious about that in an environment where we have inflationary pressure on our costs. So – but let’s see how the world looks like in early next year and I’ll provide more guidance on that.
Unidentified Analyst
Sounds like we’ve got the right team there now. Thanks a lot folks. We’ll look forward to connecting in coming quarters.
Fei Chen
Thank you.
Simon Stadil
Thank you, John.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] At this time, we’re showing no further questions. We will go ahead and conclude today’s question-and-answer session. I will now like to turn the conference back over to the management team for any closing remarks.
Fei Chen
Thank you, Mike. I would like to close this conference call by saying thank you all very much for being with us today. We look forward to come communicating with you soon in the New Year. Thank you.
Operator
And we thank you ma’am and to the rest of the management team for your time also today. Again, the conference call is now concluded. At this time, you may disconnect your lines. Thank you everyone. Take care and have a wonderful and blessed day.
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