Electrovaya Inc. (OTCQB:EFLVF) Q4 2022 Results Conference Call November 5, 2022 5:00 PM ET
Company Participants
John Gibson – CFO
Dr. Raj DasGupta – CEO
Conference Call Participants
Amit Dayal – H.C. Wainwright
Jeffrey Campbell – Alliance Global
Shawn Severson – Water Tower Research
Operator
Hello and welcome to the Electrovaya’s Q4 Year-End 2022 Financial Results Webcast and Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It’s now my pleasure to turn the call over to your host, John Gibson, CFO. Please go ahead.
John Gibson
Thanks very much. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining today’s call to discuss Electrovaya’s Q4 and fiscal 2022 financial results. Today’s call is going to be hosted by myself; and Dr. Raj DasGupta, CEO of Electrovaya.
Today, Electrovaya introduced a press release concerning its business highlights and financial results for the 3- and 12-month period ending September 30, 2022. If you’d like a copy of the release, you can access it on our website. If you want to view our financial statements, management discussion and analysis and annual information form, or AIF, you can access those documents on the SEDAR site at www.sedar.com, searching for Electrovaya.
As with previous calls, our comments today are subject to the normal provisions relating to forward-looking information. We will provide information relating to our current views regarding market trends, including the size and potential for growth and our competitive position within our target markets. Although we believe that the expectations reflecting in such forward-looking statements are reasonable, they do obviously involve risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in such statements.
Additional information about factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations and about material factors or assumptions applied in making forward-looking statements may be found in the Company’s press release announcing the Q4 fiscal 2022 results and the most recent annual information form and management discussion and analysis under risks and uncertainties as well as in other public disclosure documents filed with Canadian Securities Regulatory Authorities. Also, please note that all numbers discussed on the call are in U.S. dollars unless it’s otherwise mentioned.
And now, I’d like to turn the call over to Raj to give you a quick business update.
Dr. Raj DasGupta
Thank you, John, and good evening, everyone. Fiscal year 2022 was pivotal for the Company as we passed several major milestones, which I believe will set Electrovaya on course to being one of the leading lithium-ion battery players.
First of all, we have continued to see strong and growing demand for our Infinity battery products from some of the world’s largest companies. Growing deployments of batteries to these customers have continued to demonstrate our capability to deliver and also that these products provide these customers unique benefits, including higher levels of safety with lower overall life cycle costs due to superior battery cycle life. These lower life cycle costs are despite the fact that these batteries are being sold at higher prices than typical battery products.
In the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2022, we demonstrated that our scale-up plans from both, a supply chain and manufacturing standpoint could meet growing demand. In this fourth quarter, we had record revenue of $10 million, which was also EBITDA positive, two key milestones which position us to meet our guidance of $42 million in fiscal year 2023.
One thing that I think is unique about Electrovaya in the clean tech and battery space in general is that we are managing this growth at near breakeven levels and we will be positioned to move to a cash flow positive position in 2023. We are achieving this despite expanding our research and development efforts for our commercial and solid-state battery products, growing our headcount and planning investments for increased capacity.
We’ve been frugal and extremely effective in our execution of this strategy, which I think more people will appreciate in these times of high interest rates and a focus on corporations who can both, grow and do so profitably. The revenue in the fourth quarter was achieved while managing a growing operational team and additional equipment, however, still operating within a single shift. We have established systems that will enable us to grow further. This included achieving ISO 9001 certification in July and adding some key quality and operations staff. Furthermore, we are embarking on some innovative automated assembly methods, which should come on line in fiscal year Q3 to support assembly of high-voltage battery systems in addition to new customized battery systems.
With these enhancements, we expect the Mississauga facility itself to be in a position to support in excess of $70 million in revenue annually with minimal additional capital spend. However, we see the need to support further growth, and this brings me to our Jamestown, New York expansion plans. As we announced in October, Electrovaya plans to establish our first Gigafactory in Jamestown, New York. This facility will be central to our strategy in increasing capacity and enabling Electrovaya to enter new markets.
Our highest priority is to establish our cell assembly at the facility, thereby augmenting our current contract manufactured products. This vertical integration should have a positive impact on our gross margins. Furthermore, cell and module output will be eligible to access Inflation Reduction Act incentives, further increasing the financial benefits of reshoring these activities. Finally, from just an assembly perspective, this facility can mirror our Mississauga facility operations, thus increasing the final system capacity by a significant factor. I would expect us to have final assembly up and running in Jamestown first, and we are targeting start of operations during the first half of calendar year 2023.
The cell assembly capacity is capital-intensive, and we are in late-stage discussions with two government-backed entities to help support these investments through low-cost loans.
From a business development standpoint, we continue to make progress growing our relationship with Raymond Corp. through increased dealer engagement, potential new leasing opportunities, and finally, new large accounts becoming customers. Our customers tend to be large corporations, most of them Fortune 500 companies. Generally, most of our revenue is generated by a select few of very large end users but this list continues to expand.
The Company continues to focus on developing additional OEM relationships in the material handling and other sectors. I expect us to be successful in announcing some further relationships in the near future. We have also received some initial orders for our high-voltage battery systems. As I mentioned earlier, we are investing in a new automated manufacturing line, specifically designed to meet the needs of these types of systems. This will come on line in the calendar year — Q2 of 2023 and will enable the Company to start deliveries into new markets, including electric bus, truck and other applications that utilize high-voltage battery systems. High-voltage battery systems will also be used for stationary energy storage systems, and we recently announced that we plan to develop batteries for this market, which will also be based on our Infinity Battery Technology platform.
We’ve already proven that this technology enables significantly longer cycle life with superior safety performance through mature deployments in our material handling and other applications. These factors are also highly valuable for this rapidly growing and maturing market as many developments are now taking the overall life cycle cost of the solutions into account, a metric that is very much in the Company’s favor.
Finally, when taking into consideration the Inflation Reduction Act incentives, our solutions will become ever more competitive. Given the size of these projects, we would definitely require our Jamestown site to have cell assembly operational prior to making deliveries. So, we are now looking at projects in 2024 and 2025 periods and beyond.
Last but not least, I’d like to briefly discuss our efforts with regards to our solid-state battery technology development. We have continued to make good progress in this area. Back in April, we had published results relating to what would be referred to as our solid-state hybrid battery. This approach had elements of both, conventional lithium-ion technology with liquid electrolytes and also our solid-state battery electrolyte. More recently, we have made good progress with regards to a full solid-state battery and are considering both approaches with regards to commercialization efforts. We have started introductory calls with some high-profile automotive companies, and we hope to be in a position to start sampling cells in the first half of calendar year 2023. Finally, we have continued to invest and grow our team at Electrovaya Labs, which is solely focused on the development of this solid-state battery technology.
Given Electrovaya’s successful execution of the implementation and commercialization of ceramic separator based cells, I’m optimistic that we are in a good position to be successful with our solid-state battery efforts.
I will now turn the call over to John to review our fiscal year 2022 fourth quarter results in greater detail. John?
John Gibson
Thanks, Raj. Revenue for Q4 2022 was $10 million compared to $4.1 million in the fiscal fourth quarter in 2021, an overall increase of 140%. This has been a record for the Company and now sets a target for us to beat going forward. On a sequential basis, revenue in Q4 increased significantly from Q3 by 132% and was in excess of the first three quarters combined. For the full year, revenue was $19.8 million compared to $11.6 million in the prior year, an increase of 71%. It is anticipated that sales will continue to grow in fiscal ’23 as production continues to scale to meet demand.
The impact of supply chain issues and inflationary pressures was evidenced by the gross margin for Q4 of 24.5% compared to 35% for Q4 in the prior year. The decrease also arose due to some customers being locked into historical price levels from the summer of 2021. Company has taken steps to reduce these inflationary pressures through several price increases and locking in pricing from key suppliers for 2023 deliveries. We expect to see an increase in the gross margins in calendar ’23. We recently amended our credit facility. The working capital facility was increased from C$14 million to C$16 million. The increase supported working capital requirements in order to accelerate production to meet current sales demand.
Company believes its available liquidity, along with collection of $6.3 million of accounts receivable and conversion of $4.5 million of inventory into sellable finished goods as well as receiving an additional $3.8 million of inventory in process from which deposits have been recorded in the prepaid expenses is adequate working capital to support our anticipated growth.
Finally, as we released last month, the Company completed a private placement for approximately $11 million. This has been used primarily to reduce debt, provide startup funding for Jamestown and strengthen the balance sheet as we head into ’23.
That concludes the financial overview. I’ll now turn the call over to Raj for some concluding remarks.
Dr. Raj DasGupta
Thank you, John. For my concluding remarks, I’d like to summarize some of the key value propositions that Electrovaya brings to the table. Electrovaya is both, a technology and manufacturing company. We have successfully commercialized a unique approach to lithium-ion batteries, which is our Infinity Battery Technology platform. This proprietary technology platform has been shown to enhance the safety and significantly improve the cycle life of a battery regardless of the chemistry used. Our growing revenue and scale for the technology platform demonstrates the success in execution, something that we hope to repeat in a broader market context.
I’m optimistic that we have much further growth potential with the Infinity platform and the number of applications and demand for solutions that would benefit from this technology is immense. We’ve continued to focus on additional technology development. With the Infinity technology platform, we continue to make incremental improvements with regards to energy density and performance. We are also looking at other ways to monetize the unique performance attributes of our products. This includes renting or subscribing battery systems, which we are currently trialing at a Fortune 100 company. We are also looking to add additional smarts to our cloud-based remote monitoring system, EVISION, where we will be in a position to provide additional service like demand response.
Our material handling battery systems have been shown to have minimal degradation even after four years of continuous operation. Given this performance, the rental and subscription route could become very profitable. We are also expecting our OEM partner to be able to implement larger quantities of leased products with higher residual values, something that we believe could drive demand for these products.
We are continuing to add talented engineers and scientists to our team, and I’m very encouraged to see how excited people are with the work they are doing and its contribution to the overall energy transition.
Remember, an Electrovaya Infinity battery is often doing about 10 times as much work as a passenger electric vehicle battery, a figure which also translates to a very high impact in the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.
With regards to R&D, we have a growing number of funded projects to support our solid-state battery developments. We have continued to file patents. And I believe our growing IP portfolio is adding fundamental value to the Company. This is also a testament to our core commitment to technology development.
Finally, the market for our products is growing quickly, while also getting more adept at differentiating battery technologies. This is good news for the Company as we need to spend less effort in convincing customers of the need for solutions that have a focus on safety and cycle life. They are starting to have their eye out for these metrics themselves. In North America, there’s also a growing focus on developing local supply chains for this critical industry, and I believe Electrovaya is likely to benefit.
That concludes our remarks — my remarks for now. I would like to pass this on to the operator for a question-and-answer session.
Question-and-Answer Session
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our first question today is coming from Amit Dayal from H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now live.
Amit Dayal
To begin with, Raj, maybe could you give us a sense of the CapEx for 2023 for the Gigafactory effort?
Dr. Raj DasGupta
Yes. The Gigafactory effort is going to go in phases. So our first phase, the CapEx is approximately $45 million, and all-in, we’re looking at about $75 million. Now the timing of when we go from the first phase to the last phase, really depends on how quickly the demand ramps up.
Amit Dayal
And of the $75 million, how much do you think will come from these low-cost loans from the government agencies versus how much equity you have to put in?
John Gibson
This is John. So, we’re targeting close to 90% to 95% of this being covered by low-cost loans and government grants or other incentives. So, we are targeting very little equity investment from ourselves.
Amit Dayal
Understood. So, should we assume that there is some sort of loan expected to close in the near term to facilitate the build-out?
Dr. Raj DasGupta
Yes. We’re currently in discussions with two government-backed debt lenders. So, we’re in late-stage discussions. We haven’t finalized anything just yet, but we are optimistic we’ll have some — a term sheet with them early 2023.
Amit Dayal
Okay. Thank you for that. And just moving on to this rental or subscription model, a couple of questions on that, I guess. One is, are you renting this to the distributors or to the end customers? And then what’s the model over here? Are these based on an annual contract potentially? And is there any contribution from this rental model in our outlook for 2023?
Dr. Raj DasGupta
So, it’s a relatively small experiment, approximately $0.5 million worth of assets. It’s direct to the customer. So, this is a Electrovaya direct to customer relationship. The rental fee or subscription fee is rather — I would say, it’s advantageous to the Company, the fact that we would probably recover the capital cost within a year or less. So, it’s a model that could be interesting. I don’t think you’ve included it in your financial models, nor have we included this type of model in our financial projections. We will continue to be more focused on selling these battery systems rather than this route. But this is an interesting thing to consider.
When you own the battery asset, it enables you to do additional things. We can potentially use these assets as energy storage assets. As we recover the cost of the battery systems, they become also very profitable.
Amit Dayal
Understood. And then, John, maybe can you give us a sense of what we should be assuming for operating expenses next year relative to fiscal 2022?
John Gibson
Yes. I think you’re going to see an improvement in the gross margin right off the top as we kind of have taken those steps. From an operating expense standpoint, we’re still going to invest in the people here and in the R&D side of things. Obviously, we have — we’re strengthening our balance sheet, and we reduced some of our debt. So, our interest costs, our finance costs are going to go down. But what we don’t want to do is hamstring the business by cutting costs all over the shop. We understand that in order to scale — and we’re holding our projections of $42 million for next year, so that’s a 100% increase from this year. In order to scale, we’re going to have to spend money. But the key would be choosing the most appropriate routes to spend that money.
Amit Dayal
Okay. And can you remind us what your current cash and debt levels are?
John Gibson
At the end of September, our cash in the bank was just over US$600,000. Our debt was C$60 million, and we had a promissory note for another C$6.8 million, that has since been paid back. And as of today, we are looking at, I think, our debt is about C$13.5 million.
Operator
Your next question is coming from Jeffrey Campbell from Alliance Global. Your line is now live.
Jeffrey Campbell
Thank you, and congratulations. I probably could ask 10 questions, but I’ll try to discipline myself a little bit. With regard to the newly announced stationary battery development program, I was wondering as this new market unfolds, do you think it will increase the Company’s buying power for key components and improve its supply chain strength, or is the stationary and the material handling battery approach so different that there’s not been any synergies between the two?
Dr. Raj DasGupta
Great question. There is a lot of synergies. In fact, the cell materials themselves will be identical, whether they’re used in material handling products or in energy storage products. But you’re correct. The energy storage, if we’re successful in this market, the size of projects is much larger. So, it would entail: A, having the James Down facility up and running with a good capacity; and B, it would also enable us to buy materials at larger volumes. And I would expect some costs reduced due to that scale.
Jeffrey Campbell
Okay, great. Thank you. Could you add some color on the automation that you referenced that’s going to come, if I understood it correctly, I think it’s in the fiscal third quarter ’23? Is this automation the primary reason for stating that the revenue growth in Canada would go from $42 million to, I think, $70 million? Or does that also assume maybe some increase in shifts? Because you mentioned you’re still running a single shift.
Dr. Raj DasGupta
So, this automation is really specifically targeted for our high-voltage battery systems. So, our high-voltage battery systems require a different type of module design. And we’re installing an automated module assembly system here, which will enable us to build these packs more quickly. And the system that we’re installing actually has some flexibility so we can make customized battery packs more easily.
With regards to revenue, we haven’t included high-voltage battery system revenue in our forecast for calendar — for fiscal year 2023. That — our models are strictly based on our material handling products. That said, I would expect high-voltage products to become hopefully, a significant portion of our revenue in fiscal year 2024. Fiscal year 2023 though, we are proving out the systems, we’ll be working out new OEM agreements and really getting our product to — in customer hands. So, there’s lots of demand for high-voltage battery systems. We do have prototype systems in vehicles today, but we want to have this production line in place so that we can take these larger contracts.
Jeffrey Campbell
Okay. And is it fair to think — you mentioned the ability to have customized battery packs. Is that — is it fair to think of that as providing you flexibility so that you could work with different OEMs and whatever their requirements are for fitting a battery pack into the vehicle design?
Dr. Raj DasGupta
Yes. Sure. You’re precisely correct there. So each OEM, it will be nice to have a single pack, which works for everybody. It unfortunately is not going to work out that way. So, we do need to have some flexibility in the module assembly to make packs for multiple types of applications. So, you’re correct with that.
Jeffrey Campbell
Okay, great. All right. I said I’d behave. So, I’ll just ask one more question. Can you discuss — I thought this is interesting. Can you discuss the — perhaps the advantages or disadvantages of the hybrid solid-state battery versus the fully solid-state battery? Or maybe the better way to look at it is, why might it be possible to commercialize both approaches?
Dr. Raj DasGupta
So, that’s a good question as well. So, the hybrid system that we’ve already — again, these products are in development, they’re not ready to be commercialized. But thus far, the hybrid system appears to have slightly better rate capability. So, your charge, discharge rate is going to be a bit higher. And I think that will remain an advantage for the hybrid systems. That said, a full solid-state solution has some additional benefits, you get your liquids altogether. It probably will be — have a higher level of safety than the hybrid system. But again, it’s a little too early to say.
So, rather than us focusing on one and giving up on the other, we’re developing — we’re continuing to develop both systems and we’ll see how it goes. Thus far, the team has been making great progress. We haven’t published results since April. But I hope to put some new numbers out as soon as the team feels they’re ready.
Operator
Next question is coming from Shawn Severson from Water Tower Research. Your line is now live.
Shawn Severson
Hey Raj, can you comment on what you — what happens between prototype to commercialization in the high voltage, and particularly on the transportation side? Are there public milestones that you’ll be able to announce? I know you said you had some pilot programs, but what should we look for to track that progress over the next 12 months?
Dr. Raj DasGupta
Yes. So, we’ve already received some purchase orders for high-voltage battery systems. That said, we are only announcing what we would determine as material-sized purchase orders or OEM agreements, and we’re not there yet. We’re working on it. So, I would expect you would — as a milestone would be announcement of some sort of OEM agreement for our high-voltage battery products. That would probably be our next step there.
Shawn Severson
And to put that in a framework, time framework, I mean, obviously, the automotive platforms can be very long transportation platforms. But you think this is something that you don’t have to go out and do 1 million miles on a prototype bus, right, in order to scale and ramp in a commercial way?
Dr. Raj DasGupta
It really depends on the type of vehicle or type of application, how quickly it can be implemented into the OEMs platform. So some product — some vehicles have start-up production dates which are slated for, let’s say, 2025. And in order to get into that SOP, you need to hit various samples and there’s quite a bit of testing and due diligence done prior to being able to go into mass production. Other applications that time frame can be quite a bit shorter, but perhaps the volumes will be less in those other applications.
Now for high-voltage applications in general, number of applications are quite broad. So there’s electric buses and trucks. Those OEMs will take a little longer. But we’re also looking at some other, for instance, energy storage or airport equipment, those time lines are a bit shorter. So, it really depends on the application.
Shawn Severson
Got it. And you were very strategic in targeting the material handling business because it really had the margin and the profitability that you wanted, right, say the Infinity platform. Trying to understand as you go forward and you build out these other markets, again, maybe there’s going to be broader applications. But how should we think of margin profiles, let’s say — when they have volume, not obviously start-up and things? But when you look at the long term, in, say, stationary or high voltage for buses or trucks? Is it going to be comparable, or will there be a difference in how we should model that?
Dr. Raj DasGupta
So first of all, material handling still is our number one priority for both — for fiscal year 2023. It’s going to be accounting for the vast majority of our revenues. And even fiscal year 2024, we do forecast significant growth in that sector. And we have a lot of demand for our battery products in that market. So, that will remain core to Electrovaya’s strategy. The other markets, whilst they may not form as much of a size, especially in the near term, they’re strategic in nature, especially as you’re looking at higher volumes of deployments.
That said, these other markets, the customers are more cost sensitive than material handling. And thus, potentially the margins will be lower. But the size of deployments could be very large, especially with the case of energy storage. Energy storage projects are now becoming very large in size and it could be an interesting application for Electrovaya in the coming years.
Shawn Severson
Which will be leverageable at scale across all the business, right?
Dr. Raj DasGupta
Correct.
Shawn Severson
Yes. Last question is, as you look at your historical margins — gross margin specifically, is — and obviously, you’ve been — supply chain issues and pricing that you’ve had to work through when you go through the outsourced to in-source process here over the next 12 to 24 months, do you think that creates new long-term higher gross margins overall for you, or is it something that you’re kind of trying to keep pace with using these innovations to fight off the natural progression of the business at volume and margins?
Dr. Raj DasGupta
Us reshoring and vertically integrating the cell production is going to have a very positive impact on our overall gross margins. So, if you think about it, the cells, they are our single largest cost center. And by bringing that in-house, we’re going to automatically increase our margins by the factor that our contract manufacturer currently takes. We’re also going to reduce significantly our shipping and logistics costs from Asia. And then thirdly, which was a nice surprise is the Inflation Reduction Act offers significant incentives for cell and module production.
So, this looks like a $35 per kilowatt hour incentive for cells and another $10 per kilowatt hour incentive for modules. So, it’s a significant benefit for reshoring. But I’d like to also point out, we would have gone ahead with this vertical integration, despite the Inflation Reduction Act.
Operator
Thank you. We’ve reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I’d like to turn the floor back over for any further or closing comments.
Dr. Raj DasGupta
Well, thanks everyone for taking the time. And that concludes our call. Thank you for listening. We look forward to speaking with you again after we report our first quarter 2023 results. Have a wonderful evening.
Operator
Thank you. That does conclude our teleconference and webcast. You may disconnect your line at this time, and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.
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